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THE CURRENT MEN’S RIGHTS POLITICAL RIFT & ROCKING MR E

long post, still working on the terseness, but my excuse is, this is hot-button Issue RIGHT NOW.

as recently as June 26, Paul at AVfM has endorsed some pretty anti-Rocking Mr E opinions. Basically which say, Rocking Mr E is Politically Ignorant, Men’s Rights is NOT Left-Right, it shouldn’t be associated with The Right, Paul seems to be pretty mean to RME. the RIFT now is NOT re Relationships With Women, ok, there shouldn’t be a RIFT about that ANYWAY, but NOW the RIFT is about POLITICAL STANCE: LEFT OR RIGHT. And I’m just failing to see exactly how/why what RME says is SOOO OFFENSIVE. Makes me worry: who’s NEXT? Bernard CHAPIN? Myself (don’t flatter hahaha)? Anyone who doesn’t Hate The Right? What exactly did RME SAY that was SO OFFENSIVE?

http://www.avoiceformen.com/video/the-complete-guide-to-pwning-mr-e/#comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fqeK2ex1PVA#!

going to the actual YT vid of the tattoo guy Russ Lindquist criticising RME, finding some of Paul’s comments:

This comment has received too many negative votes:

“Get back to me when you have 3000 subsribers. Then you can give me advice on how to make videos because your methods will be tested. If you didn’t understand the points I made then ask about them. The way you made this video was just purely condescending and intellectually dishonest. Response not accepted.”

-RockingMrE 4 days ago

“Oh, it is the subsciber defense, eh? OK, well, I have over 5,000 subscribers, so I’m righter than you are, nah, nah, naaah!!!!!! You just proved that every last word of his video pegged you for exactly who you are.”

-TheHappyMisogynist (Paul) in reply to RockingMrE 4 days ago 12

“Some people can’t handle a tactical disagreement in the overall strategy for men’s rights. Within the scheme of things, there are a lot of things I agree with RockinMrE in terms of the possibility of finding ‘Mrs. Right’, though I would add two caveats: don’t do it in the NATOsphere and don’t think that this is a left/right issue. People are carrying over their RAC/McCarthyite baggage into all of this, and it has no place. But MrE can’t hear a shred of critique, ever. PS love your vids, subbd”

-hep48 in reply to TheHappyMisogynist 4 days ago 3

“Thank you, and I agree with quite a bit of what I have heard from him in the past. Where I don’t agree with him was never an issue. After all, who is stupid enough to to try to brow beat already rebellious men into their own worldview? He has no tact, and a lack of tact implies a lack of intelligence, or an personality problem so pronounced that it renders intelligence moot.”

-TheHappyMisogynist in reply to hep48 4 days ago 10

Sounds like PAUL thought RME was TOO STUBBORN to AGREE TO DISAGREE? But to ME it sounds like PAUL is too stubborn to civilly agree to disagree? Who’s the Uncivil one here?? Just don’t know anymore!

Now “Studying” ThatCyncialCynicism’s somewhat more civil critique of RME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL01aeoEeFI&feature=related

RME’s Blog Post

http://rockingmre.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/redstockings-to-redbreeches-manifesto.html

kinda calls out Stardusk and Barbarossaaaa as being divisive, anti-family, anti-fundamental-female-nature, comments from Paul and JtO & RME & people for and against RME…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp88pslQIjs

RME’s “Leftist MRAs: An Oxymoron” video

in the desc box UPDATE he also calls out Paul Elam & AVfM, sez Paul is a false libertarian playing up the idea of a zero-sum gender war, no individual autonomy, something something.

Paul sez he civilly disagrees with some of RME’s political viewpoints but it’s RME’s stubbornness & unwillingness to listen that’s the problem.

And I’m honestly Just Confused Now, don’t know who’s “right” and who’s “wrong.”

Anyhow there is DEF a RIFT out there. I just don’t know if it’s against RIGHT-LEANING MRA’s or just against RME in particular, because they didn’t like the way he argued, or he didn’t like the way they argued.

I don’t WANT to take a side. I’ve generally LIKED RME & generally LIKED Barb&Star. I’m OKAY with RME being Righter, and others being a little “lefter”. They ALL seemed mainly Libertarian, which made perfect sense to me, and I don’t understand why they’re attacking each other. But don’t expect any Spergy, Didactic, Pedantic Political Debates from ME.

I’m just fearful of Chapin getting attacked because he’s a Rightist & because Chapin was The Guy who Got Me Into The Whole MRM, and I have an Emotional, Personal Connection to him.

Well, even if the RIFT gets TORN OPEN and the MRM DIVIDES PERMANENTLY, I don’t think it will DESTROY the MRM. Like there’s different Strands of Feminism & “Leftism” & those forces are still D4MN powerful, more powerful than the MRM to be sure!

This just makes me think twice about sending MONEY to AVfM.

It puts Bern in a tight spotm because he’s gone on the record as supporting BOTH AVfM AND RME. Plus I’m not sure EVERYONE at AVfM hates RME. GWW for example.

I suspect it’s just TWO STUBBORN INDIVIDUALS being stubborn with each other. Not sure who started it, and I’m not sure who blew it up into a Big Rift BEYOND those two individuals, but that blowing-up is not too cool.

I just wanna state MY Official Current position that:

I Like People on Both Sides; I like & respect RME & his arguments; same with Barbarossaaaa, Stardusk, AND Paul;

however I think it’s kinda SILLY to spend time attacking other MRAs in your videos, so I kinda shake my head when somebody takes an Unfriendly Tone with RME or Bernard. Although RME seems to have attacked AVfM for having a few somewhat “Marxist” articles, which would prob help if I read, to gauge my own opinion on their level of Marxism!

IMHO, SOMETIMES “Marxism” is a Divisive & Meaningless Buzzword; OTHER TIMES it is a Meaningful term describing actually-divisive Radical Leftism. Leftists & Marxists would have You believe that second category doesn’t exist!

All MRAs should have a Friendly Tone with each other because we ALL have the common enemies of Feminism, Misandry, & Parasite Wimminz…..Right? And now we’re screaming at each other whether Leftism, Statism, Marxism should be added to that list.  I pers think probably yes. Can you have a Marxist MRA? A Statist MRA? A Leftist MRA?  I think there’s prob some ANARCHIST MRA’s out there who, because they are SO into OWS & Anti-Capitalism & Class Warfare & Proletariat vs Capitalists & Worker’s Rights, they think that makes them Leftists, and so then they Balk at the idea of Totalitarian Statist Leftists, while to MY Mind, The Leftist is Almost Synonymous with Totalitarian!

So WHAT if it doesn’t matter if we Defeat The Left because It’s Female’s Innate NATURE that’s the problem, so we should become Separatist MGTOWs & not even try to Defeat The Left because that doesn’t matter???  Just like MGTOW does not mean celibate or isolationist, IMHO it doesn’t mean Separatist From Women. IMHO, Without the influence of the STATE, Women would be ABOUT AS  Naturally, Inherently Corruptible by Selfishness & Powerlust as Men. Well, maybe a LITTLE moreso, but with a minimalist State, Men could Make Their Own (Nonviolent!) Ways to mitigate/disincentivize the negative effects of Wimminz’s Marginally-Greater Selfishness.

Although ThatCynicalCynic had this useful image in his vid, NOT TAKING SIDES THO, it is useful to see that Libertarian is NEITHER LEFT NOR RIGHT. But how do these two Axes Relate To Each Other? if they’re not related then why put them together? Well, because Every Spectrum has to measure TWO qualities, and BOTH of those two qualities can go TWO ways… 2X2… umm…. can’t TRY this HARD….

Dunno. Just me personally I am not a Separatist because I Enjoy The Company Of Women Too Much, as ridiculous as THAT sounds. Even if it is Less Than 5 Women in the Entire History Of The World!

AND I am currently CONFUSED at this Political Rift. Maybe it’s “just” Libertarian Right vs Libertarian Left methinks.

But once I did nervously ask if there were any connection between The Right and Libertarianism, like Libertarianism Came FROM the Right & was more related to the right. But does it just SEEM that way because there’s more LibertRight than LibertLeft at the moment?

IS IT IS JUST A FALSE DICHOTOMY?

OR IS THAT PICTURE A FALSE DOUBLE DICHOTOMY by suggesting there’s NO CONNECTION between the two “axes” when there IS?

Thinking and Reading Both Sides of this for a few hours hasn’t brought me closer to any conclusions, just want to watch George Lopez & Be Lazy & Relax & not be such a d4m TRYHARD.

But I do feel Rocking Mr E is being A BIT unfairly attacked. But didn’t HE unfairly attack Paul with McCarthyite Tactics? ANd that’s why Paul is mad, because Paul feels RME is being dishonest about THAT? I don’t even KNOW. However, I refuse to unsubscribe from ANYONE. I refuse to STOP LISTENING to anyone.

Maybe its because Logical Two-Way Mature Arguments are impossible to have with your TRUE Ideological Enemies, ie Feminists, so MRAs find ways to split hairs with each other? OF course now people are saying RME is impossible to have a Rational Argument with.

Anyway I like when MRAs actually propose Action Against Feminism And Misandry beyond “Just Go Your Own Way, Whatever That May Be.”  not that that’s BAD! I just like to see more Focused, Blatant, Anti-Feminist Action! Seems like Girl Writes What is doing a lot of it. She will be the one most likely to get my Activist Donation, haha.

ABSTRACT/CONCLUSION/SUMMARY: My opinion is LibertarianRight-leaning, I am biased against The Left, but we should all try to be civil & polite & courteous & respectful to each other, ESP other MRAs. A Political Rift prob NEEDED to happen bc there are signif numbers of both self-identifying Left & Right MRAs. I position myself closer to Right but I am happy to listen to Polite “Leftist” MRAs. Wonder if “Leftist” MRAs are just confused. I find it hard to conceive of Feminism as anything BUT an Arm/Vehicle of Leftist Statism, however Appealing to Inherent Female Nature as it may. I don’t think fighting Feminism & Statism is Futile because Wimminz will just find another way to be politically & societally horrible. I think Women are inherently MORE selfish than Men, but prob not to the degree that more “Male-Separatist” MRAs think Women are Irreconcilably More Inherently Selfish. However I don’t believe Traditional Manning-Up is the way to Reconcile Female Selfishness. Men&Women need to find a new way to Get Along if they WANT to get along. Lack of Specific Focus beyond “Going Your Own Way” might affect the Effectiveness of The Men’s Movement, however I cautiously argue that “Game”, ie, Horny Men Trying With Various Levels of Success to Get The Tail They Want, IS a “Boots-On-The-Ground” form of Interaction Between The Sexes. Obviously. Men Interact W Wimminz bc they want to Bang Them. These interactions are a f00king MINEFIELD/BATTLEFIELD which MRM would do well not to ignore, not to leave this domain to “Pick Up Artists” only, & why I enjoy MRAs who take a serious look at Game, Mating, The Sexual Marketplace. Feminism, both Small F AND Big F, have made this even more of a Minefield, and this is something that has impacted EVERY man at some point in his life. And MRAs should have at least a several-pronged approach of activism, in both changing Misandric Laws, as well as figuring out ways to Socialize/Teach Youths such that Men and Women generally get along better. Hint: It prob won’t be the Marxist Statist Public Schools to do so, but will involve a Father & Maybe a mother.

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ANGER

Anger is associated with men moreso than with women. If any emotion were “allowed” to men, it would be anger. Allowed, but not approved. While anger is seen as immature and violent (why does anger NEED to be “violent”?) and ineffectual and unjustified, it’s still more “manly” and “strong” than feeling weak or sad or lonely or afraid. Then you’re just a weak f4gg0t who can’t stand up for himself and get things DONE and Own Your Sh!t and Be Accountable for your actions.

There is “justified” anger – the righteous indignation you feel when you witness true injustice. And then there is “unjustified”, immature, “little boy” rage that you may feel when you don’t get Your Way.

Men who want to be Heterosexual with women – and many men do – but who fail miserably, never really getting what they want, may be initially attracted to Game, as it seems to teach them a skill to fulfill a rather immediate, pressing, serious want.

Full-Blown, Self-Identified MRAs and MGTOWs are GENERALLY more attuned to Structural Injustices and broader societal and historical trends of Misandry, than are some of the more myopic students of Game, who seemed to be obsessed with Young Tail even more than I am, or at least voice little concern over anything BUT Young Tail.

I fully understand and empathize with the “little boy rage” of the Gamers, and would like to remove the shaming and stigma attached to this “lesser” form of anger. While I don’t think being angry about “not being able to get laid” has the same level of seriousness as being angry about men’s LIVES being DESTROYED on the job, on the battlefield, or in the family courts, I think Anger-over-Sexual-Rejection still has significantly more legitimacy than its detractors claim.

There is a ton of shame heaped on Betas. Lots of patronization. Not just from Feminists who think Game is Misogynist, but from Regular Women who think Betas (and Game itself) are creepy (“Creepy” will almost certainly be a future post, hahaha), to male game-deniers who see all Game-Readers as short-sighted Pv$$y-Beggars, to the Alphas the Betas idolize. Shame, like Anger, CAN be a good motivator, but too much of it can be destructive. The “best” is when you get shamed for BEING angry, because you’re “too angry”, and for the “wrong reasons”. Methinks the Shamers have never experienced Intense Anger and how debilitating it can make one. When you are really really Angry, you are no good to no one. You can’t get anything done. Nothing. So yeah I guess I can understand how Anger gets portrayed as a pathology.

Rambling in circles again. Is it because I’m too angry? Maybe. I do often struggle with anger, and I can attest that it can become overwhelming and not productive or motivating or usable.

For example, it’s valid, understandable, and even “reasonable” to feel anger when you are rejected, taken advantage of, or simply don’t get what you want.  I think framing it as “little boy rage over not getting what the little baby wants” is a STRAWMAN, because even a little child is far less angry for far less time when his parent says “no ice cream for you!” than when one person rejects another.  That’s a difference in KIND as well as in degree: The next day the child is no longer mad about the ice cream, probably because he knows he will have ice cream again soon anyway, and it will be sweeeeeeet. Being rejected by another person is a bit like being told you’re just not good enough as a person, and you never will be. That kind of Stings more than the ice cream, especially if your interest was anything more than just purely sexual, for example infatuation, or you’d deluded yourself into thinking you respected them as a person.

I argue men are, on the average, much MUCH more intimately familiar with this kind of rejection and disappointment than are women. If women had to put up with as much rejection and failure and disappointment and loss as did men, they might be killing themselves in equal proportion to men rather than just dramatically attempting suicide for show.

Of course, a moody depressed woman will still have much more access to the potential pleasure of sex than a moody, depressed man! Note: I am NOT suggesting that moody depressed women go out and have lots of sex, because that will still make you a whore. Go to a shrink, preferably one who believes in “right” and “wrong.” Yes, this may very well be a privilege not available to you. In that case, you can still Notpray All Day to some sort of Nogod. That is likely to have a positive effect if you do it enough. Try repeating this mantra to yourself as many times throughout the day as you need: “Lord Nogod, please help me. Please give me strength to get through this day, and have mercy on my nosoul.” Over and over and over again.

So my point before I got angry was, Rejection sucks and can lead to great anger and instead of getting support and compassion, men are shamed for their anger and just pushed deeper into anger, and then if they “snap” and do something violent, then people conclude that anger ALWAYS CAUSES to violence, anger IS violence, and other nonsense. Its one of those Nuanced Arguments where the Nuances can get too easily confused. I can see how and why people confuse Anger and Violence. But I think that’s a grave miscalculation. A Serious Miscorrelation.

Anger for being Rejected by your Wife and separated from your kids and taken to the Cleaners and Living The Rest of your life in Debtor’s Prison is much, much worse than anger for getting rejected by Cute Young Girls for Sex. But I wonder if some of those in the second group don’t eventually become part of the first group. It’s their own damn fault, though, for being Gameless Betas and letting people walk all over them, isn’t it? True, they have SOME responsibility for that, but I’d place at LEAST 70% of the blame upon the person who does the walking-on. They should really know better.

I recall reading a comment thread somewhere – I know Alek Novy was involved – either at Heartiste or AVfM, where someone did a Venn Diagram of MRA and Game proponents. This might have been during the dust-up of MRA “vs” Game when Paul did his “Chateau Bullsh!t” article and related radio show. I was kinda provoked at that time, and I was a little disappointed in Paul, because I, the bridge-builder, enjoy BOTH AVfM AND Heartiste. Was that because I was a YOUNG man, or at least young enough that my Hormones were raging enough for me to be Obsessed with Young Tail? (But: I can feel myself getting Old, and I am STILL obsessed with Young Tail!)

I’m too lazy to go back and find exactly what was said, but I’d place myself in the intersection of that Venn Diagram. I started out on Game, but then I “graduated” to MRA and MGTOW, however I never fully abandoned Game either. Right now I’m trying to do a synthesis of the entire thing. I want Young Tail AND I want fairness for men in the courts, in society, in the media, and I’ll throw a Mantrum if I don’t get what I want!!!

The good news is that we can Bounce Back from rejection, dust ourselves off and try again as the saying goes; what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger, etc etc. I’ve never been a big fan of platitudes but sometimes they’re true. Except when they’re false, except when what doesn’t kill you just makes you weaker and weaker and then eventually the straw breaks the camel’s back, you get a flat tire and then you fall into a psychotic crying weak beta heap in the middle of the street like Crazy Old Nietzsche defending the poor abused horse hahahahaha. But seriously folks. Facing Adversity and Rejection and Just Keeping Living can be a great character-builder, I firmly believe. It makes you a better person, and that’s better than the Hottest Young Tail!

Or is it?

Game, as I view it, isn’t some complicated, esoteric set of routines, and it’s certainly nothing new that was invented as a solution to the “new problem” of Feminism-Empowered Entitled “Average Modern Western Women”. It’s simply charisma and confidence. Good social skills. No big “Mystery” there, hahahahaha. However, it is surprising How MANY Men have Such Below Average Social Skills. Unless, of course, the True Average is NOT to mate. The Real Average is to Have Social Skills So Crappy you’re Unable To Pull Tail. And it may be true (heh, “weasel words”) that, in the Environment of Evolution, 80% of Males died without leaving heirs, and 20% of males – the true alphas – spread their seed among harems of many, many women, and we are the legacy of those very few men combined with those multifarious women. The vast majority of men died alone, angry, afraid, and absolutely Young Tail-less, and so too will they today. Alone and afraid often go hand-in-hand with angry. And Tail-less.

“Mmm-hmm! That just goes to show you WHY anger is sooooo BAD! You push others away with your insecurity!”

I admit  I do have a Pet Peeve for Women who Give Advice. 100% of the time – even more of the time than Most Women ARE “Like That” – even when A Woman gives WELL-INTENDED advice – it comes across as Patronizing and is ultimately less than useless – it’s insulting and angering. Especially when it’s Women advising you on Anger, or How To Change Yourself To Be More Attractive to Women. How about you just STFU because you have NO idea and your opinion is Stupid and Naive and Immature and Insecure and Deluded. The person who does NO Work telling the person who does ALL the work how they should Work Better. Give me a break. How about not being such an Obnoxious B!tch.

Times like that, I will get angry enough to use the B Word!

If Bouncing back from Rejection builds character, and women get rejected far, far less than men, does it follow that women on average have much less “character” than men? I wouldn’t necessarily say that. You can be privileged and Unrejected and still not be an a55 about it! For example, I am the textbook definition of a Privileged White Male, and I try never to forget it. (Yes, I’m aware that much of MRA is about pointing out how Male Privilege is not much of a Privilege. I’m just speaking in terms of personally having a Good Family and Opportunities for College and Career Success. I take full blame/accountability for all the mistakes I’ve made in my life which have brought me to the lowly status I’m at now.)

Men generally place higher value on Honor and Respectability and Morality and Ethics than Average Modern Western Women (AMWW). You can Respect your biological privilege/power of being able to choose your desired mate exactly by not choosing every possible mate and sampling the Schlongasbord during your halcyon days. This is just as “creepy” as George Sodini in a Trenchcoat walking down the street and whipping his Dong out and jerking-off with a big leer to every woman he sees.

Violence is Inherently Wrong. Anger is NOT inherently wrong. Anger does not CAUSE violence or even necessarily LEAD to violence. I argue a very specific combination of anger, ignorance, and evil/immorality leads to violence.  (Yeah I WILL break out the “E” word!) Shaming the Angry as Potentially Violent is just a way to make their legitimate concerns appear illegitimate. This is very low-down, dishonest, dishonorable and disrespectful, and We Don’t Like It.

Those men who do have individual Sexual Frustration IN ADDITION TO “More Valid Anger” about The Broader Issues are in a particularly precarious Shame Triangle, because their opponents will say they’re JUST/MERELY Little Boys Angry That They Can’t Get Laid but they’re too Stubborn and Arrogant to Think “Gee The Common Denominator Here Is Me, Maybe It’s ME who needs to change”, etc etc ad nauseum.

So should those who DO have Sexual Frustration Go Out Of Their Way to DENY they have ANY Anger over that?

I don’t think so.

But I am currently wrestling RIGHT NOW with the notion that the tasteless “jokes” I sometimes make on Twitter wrongly make MRA’s Look Like Women Haters and Women-Violencers. And I do not want to do that to My Brothers. It could be like handing Our Heads to Feminists on a silver platter, and I definitely don’t want to do that, no matter how much I personally enjoy and laugh at Horrible, Evil Jokes about everything from Raeping Women to Gassing J3ws to Eating Babies to Molesting Children to Enslaving and Lynching Blacks, etc.

The best I can PROMISE you right now is that I will try not to make “hateful”, evil jokes every single day, or without a great deal of Thought behind them. Serious, Blogworthy Thought.

But I will NOT promise to not say crude things like “I’ll only b4ng a fat girl if she’s 23 or younger and has a young-looking face and skin.”

I’m honestly flexible on this. I suppose if an MRA I really respected, like Uncle Bern or Barbarossaaaa, messaged me “Stop making childish jokes, it makes us all look bad, it paints us all as violent idiots and sets the whole MRM back”, then I probably would stop.

I’m not gonna lie, when I was listening to the April 2012 AVfM show “All MRAs Are Privileged, Angry White Cis Men”  (not exact title; but great show as always!) I was thunderstruck when they announced the next caller was Barbarossaaaa. I cheered like my favourite sports team made a huge win. He’s one of my favourite MRAs and I’d not-so-secretly hoped he’d be a guest on AVfM one day, and I was/am really happy when I learned he was on a May Episode of AVfM’s new News/Activism show with James Huff & Robert O’Hara. I just didn’t know he had called in to one of AVfM’s other episodes at an earlier time. But it only makes SENSE. All of AVfM’s radio shows are great. I had taken a little hiatus from listening for a few months and I’m glad I stopped that hiatus.

While I do enjoy the Diversity of Opinion and Fierce Independence of MGTOWs, I also enjoy seeing a group of the strongest voices get together and talk. There was a very nice Espirit De Corps when I heard John, Girl, Typhon, and Barb conversing. Naturally in my Fantasy MRA All-Star Radio Show I add Bern and Heartiste to the conversation.

I realize this is pretty far from my starting topic of Anger, but honestly this post got off to a rough start, hahahahaha.

(I will NOT stop saying “hahahahahahaha” even if it sounds “Unprofessional” or “Unserious”, because even though We Are A Serious Movement, I and probably most other men appreciate a sense of humor, and it can be hard to convey a light tone through Sarcasm, or if your Jokes are bad, so I simply say “hahahahahahaha” not as a way to say “don’t take us seriously” but as a way to say “don’t take LIFE so seriously, have a sense of humor sometimes, or you’ll turn into a famously frumpy humorless feminist.” Hopefully everyone has had the experience of having at least one Friend in their lives (usually male!) who always comes across as cheerful, who always puts you in a better mood just by being around them, who is often laughing at their own jokes even if they’re not particularly funny, but not in an arrogant “I’m smarter than you” way, because he always laughs at everybody’s jokes, and improves the lives of everyone around him. I would like to be That Guy. A Real Good Guy Greg. At least with this blog. Since I naturally have a habit of being Debbie Downer in Real Life.)

This blog is a work in progress. Right now I see myself as “practicing” writing, so I don’t – and “The Readership” SHOULDN’T – expect it to be real good at the moment. I haven’t written blogs in a long time. I’m not entirely sure where this one is going to end up, but I know that I DON’T want it to turn into me whining Too Much like an Emotional Beta about my Personal Failures. However I DO feel a need to address my personal emotions to SOME extent, and it’s challenging finding the ideal balance there. But I will TRY to tie them in with Men/Manosphere/MRM. Because I do think it would be short-sighted to claim that powerful emotions such as Infatuation and Anger have NO RELEVANCE to Men. These emotions can be Bad if we don’t Manage them, but they’re not INHERENTLY bad and should NOT be ignored, denied, or shamed.

And regarding SHAMING, I just wanted to say that Slut-Shaming is FAR more appropriate and effective than Beta-Shaming. Betas are inherently more respectable and honorable than Sluts. Betas are not going around with the trenchcoat exposing themselves to every woman they see. Betas are simply trying and repeatedly failing to get a little action for once in their foreveralone lives. Betas need support, encouragement, help, and yes platonic LOVE from other men who have been there, not scorn and shame from Alphas Who Now Pound Piggish Pv$$y but were once whining, pathetic Beta Virgins themselves.

I’m all for Tough Love and Trial By Fire, but I think a little more Soft Love and a lot less Scorn and Shame from MEN towards OTHER MEN would be pretty damn helpful.

And, Sexual Frustration is Valid Frustration and, in generally, Women should just STFU about it and stop trying to give “advice” or commentary because it’s just obnoxious and annoying. Far more so than my tasteless joke tweets.

Things are gonna be a little disorganized and focused and scattershot around here in the start, so just expect that. However I DO expect my writing/this blog to Get Better in the Medium-Term future. Just Gimme 3 Months, hahahaha.

I was listening to AVfM Radio “Telling the truth about boys” show and the show closed with a very relevant and powerful remark from Typhon Blue: LISTEN to your anger. When Paul asked her what advice she would give to boys on how to educate and train them for The World Of Women, for which Media and School and Society and even well-meaning Families do not fully prepare them. Listen To Your Anger. Your anger is an alert system telling you that something’s WRONG, and you would be smart to believe it. Use your anger to help you find what’s wrong and then try to solve that problem or protect yourself from it. Don’t ignore it, don’t think it’s a false flag. More likely that not, your anger is your Gut telling you that something IS wrong and unjust and potentially harmful. So don’t get harmed. Protect yourself and know that you are WORTH protecting. Don’t let your Hormones steer you into sacrificing your self-respect, integrity, and safety.

Very often we think of Logic Versus Emotion, as if they are Enemies, and Logic must Conquer Emotion every time (Well, I often leap to that conclusion!) but the bottom line is that both Logic AND Emotion can serve us well when balanced properly. A little Anger can save our lives. A little Infatuation can bond us to a mating partner and help us stay Faithful. But you have to have Logic to know when you’re getting a Raw Deal. Like Barbarossaaaa says, men are pretty good at knowing when they’re getting a deal and when they’re getting screwed. The problem is when men keep going back to get screwed, even when deep down they KNOW they’re getting screwed, because their emotions overcome their logic.

I do think the current “rift” in which people are taking issue with Rocking Mr E’s MRA+ is a little bit overblown and it will blow over. I agree partially with RME that Love Between Men and Women CAN exist and can be a beautiful, positive emotion, but I also agree with Barbarossaaaa and Stardusk that Women are predisposed to be more selfish than men and that the odds are stacked against men and to Bet On Love is a Fool’s Errand and that even if you have it good, things could go very bad overnight and you could be permanently screwed, so Know The Risks, and most of the time, the Risk Isn’t Worth The Reward. But RME is a great guy so let’s not pile-on him, hahahahaha.

I find it amusing and somewhat discouraging that MRA/MGTOW YouTube videos are filled with comments with MRA’s arguing viciously with each other over religion, politics, race, how selfish are women naturally, game, relationships, and people become Internet Tuff Guys even worse than I do. I could understand if they were ridiculing a Feminist Troll, but I think, in general, MRAs should give other MRAs a little more slack & be more civil and laugh away any personal disagreements because, at the end of the day, as MRAs, as Men, we have a LOT more in common than we don’t.

ONE.

Teasers:

Attractive Women have a Moral Obligation to know they are Attractive and to act respectfully with that power, and their Parents have a Moral Obligation to Teach them how to do that.

Leonard Cohen is a tremendous, inspiring, beautiful, transformative, transcendent man.

Black MRAs are Powerful!

PS: I’ve always been wary of Comments, because I hate being criticized! It sounds too much like the Wimminly Advice I described above. When I leave comments, it’s not usually to troll, and usually to give support to the writer. If I disagree with anything they said, then I will say it as nicely as possible. If my disagreement is really significant, then I just won’t say anything at all, as more likely than not, our ideological differences will not be settled by any amount of arguing. If the difference of opinion annoys me enough, I’ll just stop reading the blog.

Basically this me saying that if I get a comment I don’t like, I’ll delete it.  Especially if it’s a Wimminz saying something annoying and pedantic and advicey.

Not that I anticipate a lot of comments. I don’t WANT a lot of comments!

What if anger-as-an-alert-system is just trying to tell us that our Anger Itself is misplaced? That our alert system is Broken, like a Little Boy who doesn’t get his Ice Cream and then gets really really angry for days and weeks and months and years? Well then you can get a whole lotta Xanax and just say “OKAY” passively whenever women withdraw their S3x from you so they can give it to More Alpha men.

 

LATER EDIT: just ignore this, I’m rambling about Caffeine and Leonard Cohen and no MRA stuff, hahahahahaha. I may end up deleting this because Being A Big Leonard Cohen Fan is something that I am easily Real-Life-Identifiable as.

I enjoy writing every day but sometimes the stuff does not really warrant a new post as it is not really on any topic. Or it may be related to the last topic. Or I just don’t want to have a new post. Like today, where I simply wanted to express Thanks and Gratitude to The Cosmos (hehehe) for having a day off and doing absolutely nothing but sleeping, drinking a nice mix of Iced Tea + Diet Mt Dew, a little modification of The Arnold Palmer which I do not have a name for yet. Normally I get up early and drink a lot of coffee all day long. With the sudden blessing of being able to sleep, I have indeed slept, and avoided Coffee for about 30 hours, unheard of. Took a Tylenol to assuage a small headache, but nothing excruciating. Still a sense of being tired and having no energy though. This is nothing new, so usually I Chug An Ocean of Coffee to make myself do what I need to do during the day. But with nothing to do, a First World Privilege if there ever was one, I decided to “detox” from Coffee for a few days while I had that luxury. I did not find a wave of energy in its place, rather, I just slept ALL DAY and went to bed at 6pm. On This, Day 2 of “vacation”, I still felt tired after a full night of sleep. So I “broke down” and got a little caffeine in the form of the “Super Arnold Palmer.”

And this has absolutely nothing to do with Men’s Rights. I was thinking about making a Second Blog for non-Men’s Rights things.

I have always been a big Tom Waits fan and also a big Leonard Cohen Fan. To me, these Singer-Songwriters deserve just as much recognition as “the mainstream” gives Bob Dylan. I don’t hate Bob Dylan, he just comes in at – at most – third place here. Usually I had always ranked Waits above Cohen, but these days I’m finding I’m ranking Cohen above Waits. Going back and listening to all the Cohen albums I’d not given enough attention: “Recent Songs,” “Death of a Ladies Man”, “Various Positions”, “New Skin for the Old Ceremony”, actually, a good 40% of Cohen’s Oeuvre I’m not as familiar with as I should be. All this is probably brought on by Cohen’s new 2012 album “Old Ideas”, which may just be Classic Cohen. The big problem with Bob Dylan is his inconsistency. If every album he made was as good as “Blonde on Blonde” or his first 4 or 5 albums, then he wouldn’t be at such a distant third place for me. Not that I’m crapping on Dylan’s newer albums either. His old-man voice sounds great. I guess Cohen just speaks to me more personally, and even his “inconsistent” albums are growers. Maybe it has to do with him taking at least 4 years between each album.

And I’ve never been a fan of Lyrics for some reason, I just rarely pay attention to lyrics. Maybe it’s my pessimistic view of musicians, and I don’t think they should try to be “poets” too. Pick one or the other because you can’t possibly be good at both. Obviously I don’t feel this way about Cohen. What I really like is how the first verse of lyrics starts off real simple and straightforward and even banal, but then as the song unfolds, he blows that theme wide open and says something spine-chillingly profound, but still related to the foundation he sets in the beginning. The first song on “Old Ideas” def does this.  Maybe even “Hallelujah” or “Suzanne” arguably.

So I’m thankful I “discovered” that new album “Old Ideas”, it got me back on a pretty serious Cohen kick. I’d like him to live forever and keep making new albums, but really we’re fortunate to get this one, it was uncertain whether he would ever make an album of new songs after “Ten New Songs.” And he’s 75 or 76.  Anyway I hope he lives to 120 and makes a dozen more albums. I was also clued into a recent live album called “Songs From The Road” (classic Cohen album title eh?) which was released after the magnificent “Live In London” and features that same Hot Band. (Many of which have been playing with Cohen since the 70s!)  But included some songs which were noticeably missing from LiL, namely, “Avalanche”, “Famous Blue Raincoat”, “Chelsea Hotel”, “The Partisan”, and, possibly my favourite, “Waiting for the Miracle.” I’ve never disliked that song but until I heard this live version I wouldn’t think of putting it on the same level as those previous songs. This Version gives the song the treatment it deserves, really breathes new life into it.

Back in the Day I preferred Old Cohen to New Cohen because it sounded more Organic and I thought he sounded better with the Old Bob Dylan style production of just a man and a guitar. When he incorporated a band, it was often overproduced, to my ears, in a “Cheesy 80s” sense, and was a bit off-putting. Live In London and Songs From The Road present a full-band approach to the material that is much more timeless, giving me a new appreciation for the stuff that may have “suffered” with a “dated” production on the studio versions. Of course now I can go back & listen to those albums and they sound fine. But it’s also amazing how a guy with a reputation for being an “intimate singer-sognwriter” can put on such a great live show with band.

And now I’m reminded of the semi-recent “Isle of Wight” live album which was pulled out of the vaults, and that was Solid too. That was no more recent than about 1974 (checked: 1970), close to his “Live Songs”, his first official Live Album, early 70s. Those sounded great too. I guess the man can do absolutely no wrong in my opinion.

Heh. So my “underrated” Cohen Songs Of The Moment Are:

“Waiting For The Miracle” (live 2010ish)

“Tennessee Waltz” (included on 2004ish album “Dear Heather”, but a live track recorded in 1990s I THINK)

“Sing Another Song, Boys” (included on Songs Of Love And Hate but clearly a Live recording from early 70s, proving, as on “Live Cohen”, he still put on a Sick Show back then)

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First Official Post Upon Starting New SemiOfficial Blog

A bit confused/overwhelmed by the WordPress Dashboard. Fair Warning: this is (prob) not going to be Great Writing. This will prob just be Quick And Dirty. With my last blog I tried to “refine” and “revise” and “proofread” and make the writing “strong” and “compelling” and “terse” but here I don’t plan on that right now, I’m just Rambling off the top of my head. Prob because what I really want to do is a YouTube channel but right now I haven’t figured out exactly how to disguise my voice.

Unlike my previous blog, The Evil Ebon Frigid Appendage Of Doom or something which I will not utter the exact name of, I would like to get back to using the First Person, because I don’t want to kid anybody that these are not My Opinions. I started using Third Person as a legit reasonable way to get away from the Navel Gazing Details That blog was heading towards, but that didn’t stop me from revealing Too Much about myself and about Others. Anonymity and Privacy is a Big Concern of The New Blog. Huge. I at least want to pretend like I am obsessed with my Career, and My Opinions and Weltanschauung are nothing if not Politically Incorrect, Offensive, and Career-Killingly Unemployable! So I am trying to make myself unidentifiable to any and all Future Employers. Career Is Survival.

I have always been quite narcissistic, so talking about myself is a pleasure and an end unto itself. But I’m not so narcissistic in Real Life, but I just said I would not talk about My Real Life…

…Other than that one of my main obsessions has been Young Tail (Pv$$y), and this obsession motivates much of my interest in Men’s Issues. I see Gamers mocking MGTOWs and MGTOWs mocking Gamers and thought that MY purpose within the Manosphere was to Bring All These Men Together. In my view, there’s no reason all these “Factions” within the Manopshere can’t get along and coexist peacefully. I don’t think Men should be shaming and attacking each other. All Men should be HELPING each other achieve their own personal goals, whatever they may be. Well, within reason of course, no violence or supersadism.

I am probably leaning more towards MGTOW at the moment because I like their serious talk about The Big Picture Of Men And Women, however I definitely lean more towards Game than any MGTOW. I personally think Heartiste is a great example of a guy that covers all the bases. The only problem is his and his commenters tendency to shame betas and game-deniers and possibly less game-oriented MRAs and MGTOWs. Because I think a lot of the Social and Biological stuff Heartiste talks about IS pretty compatible with MRA and MGTOW. In other words, Heartiste may actually be an MGTOW and not know it!

In short, men have no business attacking, shaming, and mocking other men, when we all in the Manosphere can agree that Feminism, Feminists, and The Modern Mainstream Woman produced by Feminist/Marxist/Statist influence: these are what we should be fighting, these are what MRAs, MGTOWs, and Gamers alike can agree upon as a common foe.

I probably have Adult ADD, Derpression, anxiety, borderline personality, narcissistic personality, avoidant personality, hysterical/histrionic, passive agressive, definitely Sex Addiction, Latent Substance Addiction, bla bla, I really should start Therapy with Dr Tara from A Shrink for men, hahaha. I am as Batsh!t crazy and Overemotional as the Average Modern Western Woman, quite ironic uh?

But sometimes I manage to get it together I suppose.

Rambling but that is what this new blog is about, you don’t have to LIKE it. I am openly an 455hole and will delete your comment if I really want to, hahaha. I say racist, sexist, and occasionally violent and abusive things, although I officially and openly disavow actual violence. I am aware that my nonserious usage of Violent Shock Humour might diminish the Legitimacy of my Serious concern for Men’s Issues, since I might be somehow Tainting these Good Men by association. This could become a serious problem, I’m well aware. However I want to have my cake and eat it too, which I often Criticise Modern Women for doing. I want to laugh at Women-Beating jokes and comics and then also come out and support valid MRA groups like A Voice For Men, and obviously all serious Men’s Groups disavow violence, like they should. My point is, I would never go into Paul’s House and start talking my trash, because he would Ban me, and he’d be Right to do so. However In BKC’s House, I will say whatever BS I want to.

However my Fundamental Moral Stance was solidified when, among other things, I watched “Three Guys One Hammer” one day and concluded that Violence Was Wrong, Immoral, and Evil. That in my mind was one of the mysterious ways The Lord works, and how any benevolent g-d could allow something like that. To Wake People Up to Real Evil.

Note that I am not a True Believer or Born Again anything, but Faith and Doubt and Religion are among my Interests. Recently my position has been that I’ve been annoyed by smug First-world Reddit Atheists, and I’ve been Going Back to reexamine the Religious Tradition in which I was raised.

First World Problems, yep. Oooooooo, Waaaaaaaaaah, “I have to get a job and work for a living like everyone else, woe is me, I don’t even have African Warlords mutilating my family, I’ll probably live to age 74, I don’t have cancer or aids but I’m not 100% Satisfied with the quality of TAIL I’m getting, waah waah waaah,” Yeah I love First World Problems. I got 99 First World Problems and a B ain’t one. Or maybe they’re all of them.

Point: I am interested in Survival and what We have to do to do it. Especially us smug educated privileged First Worlders, and how some of us can come from great backgrounds and then just throw it all away like Defective Total Losers, hahahahaha.

I am fully convinced Men Gain Value as they age, and Women lose value as they age. The Peak Age for Women is Early Twenties. All Women should get married at that time because that’s when they can pull the best possible man. And women should not be promiscuous before then (or ever.) Sexual Power is like the Ring of Power in Lord of the Rings. It can be used for good or for ill. Many if not most women use it for Evil. Or at least for Retarded, hahaha. Women should not be Promiscuous because They don’t have to Work to get C0ck, to have S3x with people they find really attractive. They just sit there and look pretty and early 20s and don’t act a B!tch.  With this power comes great responsibility, and I honestly don’t think I’d want it. I would not like to be tasked with such life-long, long-term decision making when I was in MY early twenties. In fact, in my own early twenties I made some terrible decisions which, in my late twenties, I’m still trying to recover from. The point is, being a man, and since these weren’t c0ck Carousel Spread My Uterus decisions, I CAN bounce back from them. In the Medium Term. Anyway. If A Young Women remains relatively Chaste and Pure and Innocent, then the Gift of her Young Pv55y to a man actually MEANS something, as It Should, because the Young Pvssy is nothing but the Gateway to the Uterus, where the great 9-month Sacrifice is made, and it SHOULDN’T be Thrown around willy-nilly like a horny man beating off 10 times a day to porn.

And when a Young Woman gives her Unbutthexed Uterus to a man, then he possibly CAN commit to that. Also C0Ck Carousel Carousing decreases a woman’s ability to Pair-Bond and commit to her man and to be Loving and Kind and Wifely and Motherly. So the Young Pure Girl falls head over heads in obsessional infatuational druglike oxytocin biochemical love with the man, the man says, well that’s nice of her, I can appreciate her radiant love and her radiant young body, and even as her body falls from graces and starts aging a few years later, he can hold the image of her When She Was Young and that will actually mean something. That she gave the Best Years of Her Life to HIM. And he will respect that by committing. Well ideally he could get a little action on the side too, if he wants.

Men are programmed to want to F everything that moves, to spread their seed, because they had a lot of seed to give and it was real easy to do so. Just Beat and Squirt and there it is. And since they were often being used as Fodder of some sort: going to war, being ripped to shreds by saber-toothed tigers, beaten to death by other men, falling off cliffs, working 24 hours a day until they dropped dead in the field before age 30, well, if they wanted to Leave An Heir they pretty much would have to bang anything that moved, any chance they could get, and chances were few and far between. Many men died hierless.

However, I don’t advocate for the SUPER-Traditional, Social Conservative view of White Knight Men who Work Their 455es off as Mere Utilities and Workhorses for Women. (Although I do believe Stay At Home Mothers are probably better for their children than Careerist Shrikes, hahaha.)

Anyway Women are NOT Biologically programmed to want to F everything the way men are, no matter how much Feministic Educators say that Men and Women are the same and all the differences between us are due to Social Programming alone. My perspective on this boils down to: Female Birth Control can only go so far. You can drive nature out with a pitchfork, but it only comes roaring back again, as the saying goes. (yes I’m well aware Tom Waits did not INVENT that figure of speech!) And even if you’re on female hormonal birth control, that CAN NEVER change the fact that you ARE female and that you HAVE a uterus and that you HAVE the CAPACITY/CAPABILITY/POSSIBILITY of getting pregnant in the first place. Men will never have uteri and will never know this possibility. Many women have been fooled into thinking they have absolute control over their uteri, but I think their Animal Brain can’t be fooled in the end. And because women have different Physical Endowments and Hormones and such, the experiences of their Sexual Lives will always be drastically different than men’s, and trying to fool them otherwise has had dramatically negative consequences in the Sexual Market and in Modern Hetero Relationsh!ts.

The Pill can keep you from Getting Pregnant Temporarily, but it doesn’t Keep Women from BeingThe One Single Sex Who CAN Get Pregnant.

Women can not have Casual Sex because Sex can never be just casual for Women. Women don’t just Squirt a L04d of EGGS out of their Cl!ts. They get 400 eggs per Lifetime and A Uterus than can be occupied for 9 months, let’s not forget the labor of the birthing process, etc. My point is not to be like “Ohhhh Gaia Earth Womb Goddess Of Fertility, Barf” but more like “This is a big RISK with substantial COSTS and SACRIFICES, so you better start ACTING like it.”

So when lots of women go around during their Peak Years having Casual sex, they’re essentially ruining themselves for life, and it’s no surprise that when they “Hit The Wall” by age 30 and the Biological Clock is ticking deafeningly loud and they wonder why don’t my Career and Cats and Casual Flings satisfy my Eternal Soul, well that’s the Nature coming roaring back, only now their bargaining chip in making the most of that deal has been vastly diminished by time and c0cks and cynicism and overinflated self-esteem and treating men as disposable and replaceable.

So I’m interested in Helping Men. Though I shame Betas SOMETIMES (not as bad as Heartiste or more Game-oriented people!), indeed, that I even USE terms like Alpha and Beta seriously does show my own ideological acceptance of Game Ideas which “more” MRA or MGTOW writers would call BS…..anyway I want to Support and Empower men, whether their goal is to Bang Young Tail, or to avoid getting raeped up the 455 in Divorce/Family Court, to not getting married in the first place, to going ghost and GYOW and living your life for yourself and just making the most of it, including surviving in a world where it can be really challenging to even survive in the first world because you made stupid mistakes when you were young and didn’t get a STEM degree and now you’re unemployable and living in your Mom’s Basement and a Shame to yourself and your family, and Invisible to Young Tail, hahahaha.

I don’t agree all the time with my favourite writers, bloggers, youtubers, who I will put on the sidebar, but I do agree with them most of the time. For example, Barbarossaaaa might not like Heartiste but I like them BOTH. Stardusk might disagree severely with Rocking Mr E, but I like them Both. This is what I mean when I say I want to be a Bridge-Builder within the Manosphere. HELL I Even Like Omega Virgin Revolt / The Black Pill, I like Alek Novy, I like all these men. I think as Manosphere Men, our similarities are a LOT more significant than our differences.

Bernard Chapin might be my greatest “influence.” I discovered him a few years ago and things have not been the same since.  (I supposed the same could be said of Heartiste, but I listen to Chapin more regularly and identify with him personally more.) I suppose a large part of that is due to Uncle Bern’s inimitable Male Charisma and Personality than comes across in his videos. I love it and will always have a Mancrush on him. More than anyone in the Manosphere, Chapin is the one guy I would most like to MEET. (Although Barbarossaaaa is gaining to second place, hahaha.)

I’ve said that I would love to see a Talk Radio Show featuring Lively Discussion amongst: Bernard Chapin, Barbarossaaaa, Girl Writes What, and Heartiste; and a bunch of callers too of course. I think Heartiste should accept his unofficial status as “A” Godfather of this “movement” and step out of the shadows and do something like that. And I think he and his crew should stop making fun of Other Men, and those Other Men (the more MGTOW and “game-deniers”) should stop hating Heartiste, because he DOES have a lot of important stuff to say. I also would like to see a Men’s Convention every year with Actual People like those mentioned above. It could be half feasting and partying, and half getting down to serious business and trying to come up with real solutions to Men’s Problems.

Ok that’s enough for now, I both indulge hedonistically in and partially am ashamed of my laziness and propensity to retire to bed early without doing enough Career Work, but I’ve got to get up early AND I would still like to squeeze in some A Voice For Men (really looking forward to hearing the Barbarossaaaa call-in that just recently happened, this is hopefully an example of the bridge-building I’m talking about, as I’ve often wished someone like Barbarossaaaa or Chapin or Heartiste would call in to AVfM, and I’m a big fan of Men Talking and Talk Radio and Actual Voices and Oratory and Speech and Conversations, as opposed to Writing and Reading Per Se, hahahaha.)

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On The Recent MRA/MGTOW/Manosphere Debate Re Relationships With Women

Clarification: MGTOWs such as Stardusk and Barbarossaaaa have lately taken issue with some things said by RockingMrE and especially his cadre of commenters. Let me first say that I am a big fan of RME, sure not as big of a fan as I am of Bernard Chapin, so I was a bit conflicted to see Barb and Star “going at” RME. I like all three and thought “can’t we all just get along.” I still stand by RockingMrE as an indeed Rocking MRA. It seems many of the criticisms levied by Barb/Star are more directed at RME’s commenters, and I’ve not read those threads yet.

As I understand it, IMHO, It SOUNDS like, at least from those two above vids from Star and Barb, that RME or “his camp” are really emphasizing NAWALT and talking about loving “ideal” hetero rels, and may be using a strawman or ad hominem to suggest that Star has “A Gaping Wound” due to alleged emotional drainage due to alleged recent bad rels, which he stated was not the case. But It’s important that he addressed what should be called “the gaping wound shaming tactic” because at root, it is a kind of shaming tactic: “your arguments are not valid because you’re just angry over personal events, and that’s clouding your judgment”, which I’ve seen used before against MGTOWs, marriage-avoiders, happy bachelors, etc.

If Briffault’s Law and the tendency of Female Hypergamy is at all valid, then it correlates that, although both men and women are self-interested as most organisms are, women are generally MORE self-interested than men, and will take advantage of men’s tendency to Sacrifice Themselves for the Benefit of Women, and of course NAWALT, but “NAWALT” is actually a deflection/strawman of the ACTUAL POINT, which is, women are, on average, more selfishly exploitative than men, and that The Modern Welfare State acts as a wealth and power transfer generally from men TO women and makes individual men all the more disposable in the everyday lives of women.

MGTOWs say it’s a bit unreasonable to hold out an example of a NARALT Rel, because men have a natural tendency to want to find the proverbial “needle in a haystack”, or as Star puts it, “a microorganism in the cosmos”, or as I might as “an atom in an ocean.” “So you’re saying there’s a chance.” Otherwise logical men will blindly ignore the cost/benefit difference in this case, when their time, energy, strength, resources, wealth, effort, brains etc could be MUCCHHHH more effectively used to further their OWN interests and goals.

Barb and Star also do a good job explaining that MGTOW does not mean “celibacy”.

And there’s the idea of “Team Woman” (Complementarian Loners?) and also Armageddon1115 on Youtube talked about something similar: Do self-proclaimed “anti-feminist” women WALK THE TALK, or do they implicitly support or not explicitly discourage Narcissistic Feminist Entitlement?

I still Like and Respect Rocking Mr E and could never see myself unsubscribing or stopping listen unless he were magically possessed by Hugo Schwyzer AND David Futrelle. But Star and Barb bring up some solid points that are too important to ignore. I myself still have some home for the “atom in an ocean”, although right now I abide by “guilty until proven innocent” and have learned to put my interests and goals first.

There’s nothing wrong with the “me first” concept, the problem is when people want something for nothing.

RME talks about “reciprocal altruism”, but Star counters that with: such a thing is definitionally impossible, and “MUTUAL REWARD” is more like it.

Ok I’m getting closer to STARTING A NEW BLOG where I post longer things like this basically. But the Twitter’s not going anywhere. Ideally I would use just twitter and a VLOG, a Youtube Channel with Me Talking and Ranting and Rambling in imitation of all my Youtube Heroes, because, right now, I believe oratory would be more effective than writing. For me, and for people like me. But again, privacy and anonymity would be even MORE at stake when you hear my voice. I of course would not show my face, but I would want to find a way to disguise my voice so a. it wouldn’t sound too ridiculously fake b. it couldn’t be reverse engineered to reveal my real voice and blackmail me out of any and all jobs for the rest of my life hahahahahah lololololol. http://tl.gd/h5083a

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THIS TWT IS AN UNOFFICIAL BLOG : Enlarging

I felt compelled, possibly divinely, to post a twitlonger as a way to develop, enhance, expound, expand, ENLARGE hahaha on the broad strokes made by my twitter. In keeping with the off the cuff microblogging approach of twitter, I would like to cut myself off at about 15 minutes and not check the spelling or whatnot. just real fast dump. this TLDR wall of text approach will also discourage any would-be career killers from reading too much and killing my (future, haha) career. As anonymity and privacy was one of the reasons I retired my previous Blog (almost a year ago!) but I do like writing bloggishly. The problem was that too many personal details had gradually crept in. The blog is still out there for people who are obsessionally infatuated in me and contains a ton of great non-personal commentary, but it is private and your email address has to be approved by me on an individual basis!

First, Men’s rights, Game, Misandry, manosphere issues. As an erstwhile Pv$$y Addict, I will be concerned with the “Micro”-Sexual issues of men vs. women for a long time to come, and here my arguments are in a large part formed in dialogue with the ideas presented by much better writers, namely Heartiste / Citizen Renegade / Roissy. This is not to say I am in 100% agreement with him or sheopleishly parrot all his ideas. But 70%? Probably!

Kinda stream of consciousness this will be. Now a full-blown MGTOW like Barbarossa views Heartiste as a lame “PICK UP ARTIST” and SLAVE to Pu55y. I’m not sure you could call Barb “anti-game”, and anti-game does get talked about a lot on Game blogs like Heartiste, and not favourably as You might surmise. A guy like Alek Novy, a notable “Anti-Gamer”, is ruthlessly mocked. I don’t think all this man-on-man mockery is superproductive to the manosphere as a whole. Can’t we all just get along? I really like Barbarossa but I really like Heartiste too. At least Heartiste isn’t lamely trying to SELL A PRODUCT, those are the guys I have very little respect for and would reserve the term “pick up artist” as a pejoriative for them. As opposed to guys who study and write on “GAME”, which I view as basically male/female attraction, male charisma and social power, what is “attractive”, mate values, sexual selection, the same thing Darwin talked about, drawing from evolutionary psychology, human bio diversity, softer and harder sciences alike.

Definition of terms can be problematic.

I might need 20 minutes, he11 this could be an hour but I dont WANT to go longer than 20 minutes so Im just gonna take a 1000 yard view.

My top manosphere guys have been largely Youtube fellows because I personally prefer listening to reading, although I like to read when I have the attention span. (In the middle of “America Alone” by Mark Steyn (total mancrush on his ridiculously charismatic personality!) and “Life at the bottom” by Theodore Dalrymple and a little of “Flipside of feminism” by Venker/Schlafly and “Why men are the way they are” by warren farrel and a bit of “Day bang” by roosh v and trying to start “The long march” by roger kimball, i think that’s all at the moment. I rarely FINISH books or read them cover to cover quickly. If I’m reading it will be those books, or blogs, namely heartiste, gucci little piggy / chuck rudd, in mala fide & ferdiand bardamu (waiting for that book man!), reddits, various fora, some of a voice for men, etc.

But as I say, my preferred method is chilling out and listening to people talk on my mp3 player, for which I use a grabber to download mp3 audios of youtube videos, and my top people there are, first and foremost, Bernard Chapin my eternal mancrush, barbarossa, Stardusk and Rocking Mr E have been welcome newcomers, Girl Writes What who deserves 15 minutes of me talking about her hahaha, John the Other, The Ignored Gender is also a fantastic new guy I’ve just discovered. I could talk a lot more on each of those guys, but I don’t have a lot of time, those guys are all more or less 70% in my ballpark of ideas.

Yesterday for example I listed to a Stardusk video where he was responding to Rocking Mr E, and I like and respect both of those guys mind you, but Stardusk is more “extreme” and more MGTOW and thinks relations with women are unsustainable from a natural, biological, evolutionary perspective: it’s not merely political, it’s not so much right and left and libertarian, sure politics MATTERs, but as a CATALYST that takes a NATURAL impulse of hypergamy, disposability, parasitism, and enhances it and rewards it and perpetuates it, and even if you go to a non-feminist culture, if you bring a woman from say saudi arabia to sweden for example, the feminist culture will encourage the worst tendencies of the female to emerge, no matter where she was raised.

I’m not as MGTOW as Stardusk and I’m closer to Rocking Mr E, who himself seems to enjoy a happy rel with his wife, and I am glad for him.

But then too I AM interested in concepts like “relationship game”, which HEartiste discussed but for that you really need to go read Athol Kay I’m told. But I’m not super DUPER interested in Relationship Game as of yet.

Uhh Girl Writes What IS as amazing as she’s been hyped up to be, and I think it’s interesting that one of the fastest-growing stars in the MRM is indeed a woman, and PERHAPS this speaks to the idea that women are not oppressed by a patriarchy, that overall we are more willing to listen to The Issues Of Men when they are presented by a woman. Lots of the Male MRAs are lumped in with “women-haters” indeed the SLPC just released their intelligence report which used standard leftist propaganda sources to shamefully character assassinate many prominent and not-so-prominent mras and gamers as VIOLENT HATERS. They drew largely off the writings of Manboobz David Futrelle, pretty notorious, and while you do have big names like Roosh and AVfM on there, I was really really surprised that Heartiste did not make the list. Either way the list is a pile of crap and I’ve given it more time than it’s worth.

listening to tons of black metal, no surprise, but still trying to keep the black metal fresh to me. haven’t listened to the new burzum as much as i’d thought. enjoying lots of weakling and mgla. different kinds of black metal each, but both have astounding, amazing, underrated drummers. yes you can have drumming standouts in black metal I’ve learned. of course I could talk about these topics for hours too but I wont.

Personally my intense interests are in the ideas of alpha and beta, and Darwinian Struggle To Survive, applied to my own life, with moments of great self-doubt that I am much more beta than alpha and that I don’t have the energy or the work ethic or the anti-laziness to be able to work my a55 off and pull myself up and pay my dues and put in my due diligence and keep my eyes on the prize to finally, at long last, become a Bigboy with a Bigboy job, finally have the resources and respect to be an Independent Man, finally have a Bargaining Chip to pull Young Tail, etc. Yes I said Young tail. Maybe that is one of my tragic flaws, but I’d argue self-doubt and laziness are the much more significant tragic flaws hahaha. this has been what’s drawn me more towards game and evopsych, because I am much more likely to be “interested” in younger women as opposed to older women, and IMHO, the Mating Peak occurs no later than the EARLY Twenties. If that makes me a creep, I am very comfortable with that, and I’m not interested in dialoguing with Rationalization Hamsters.

Criticism is not hate or anger or “creepiness”, however I admit that I have had to keep an eye on my anger, as I am prone to get angry moreso than a more “alpha” male, hahaha, which perhaps comes from a sense of “beta” powerlessness. Sometimes my judgement and criticism is so fervent that it does border on anger. Of course Righteous Indignation variant of Anger is OK, because its ok to be angry about Valid Injustice, but at any rate, you can’t let it be The Boss Of You, hahahaha.

perhaps most controversial has been my “pendulum swing” from left to right, from atheist to Born Again Hallelujah. of course this is not wholly the case, there are important nuances there which much be understood. I am better described as an Agnostic with a newfound Appreciation and Respect for some Religious Traditions, although I don’t think one could ever discover tangible or even philosophical PROOF of a god. I am however, have become comfortable with “going through the motions” of giving thanks to a god, because it seems to me so much less SMUG and ANNOYING and FIRST WORLD and PRIVILEGED and SWPL to be able to stop whining and be THANKFUL for the good things you DO have rather than just say either “yup i did all that” or “well it’s just an accident of me being born in a first world country” or what have you. Of course, I guess if you HAVE achieved a comfortable life and livelihood through Hard Work, you ARE Deserving to be PROUD of your hard work, I know I would be. So maybe when I am a Big455 winner making the big bucks at my STEM job then I will become a reborn again flaming atheist at age 60, hahahaha.

but doubt and sloth jeopardize that as well in this dark night of my educational soul. i’ve never LIKED school but I’ve always done disproportionately WELL in it with respect to my not really liking it. Eventually that caught up to me and I stopped caring and just skated by at the bare minimum, which was a big poor choice I made, for which I’m now paying the consequences, and which, if I were a religious man, I’d be praying to the lord to help me actively repent for, I, do a 180 and bust my a55 now. Which I sorta AM trying to do, I’ve indeed made some positive changes. But right now I’m stuck on Computer Science 2 (for example, the idea of Templates and the Standard Template Library in C++), and I think jeez if I’m finding this so hard, there’s like 6 more years to go of even HARDER stuff, plus people who are REALLY into this, like paid bigboy computer scientists, spend their free time LOOKING AT CODE FOR FUN and posting on code forums and I get stuck on Day 1 concepts and would rather sleep or listen to Bernard Chapin and theorize on alpha and beta and sexual marketplace and mating and harems and cost benefits of male female interactions and manosphere and feminism and young tail and all that sexy stuff.

So i’ve already gave away too many personal details, hahaha. but as I say, i’ve never been in love with school, which is why it was techinically a good decision not to try to get a phd, even if that was my own rationalization hamster for the brutual truth of I Didn’t Work Hard Enough When I Had My Big Chance to even be ABLE to do a phd. At any rate, my preferred phd would probably be in Evopsych and mating stuff, david buss, roy baumeister, all that stuff. that or just straight up hardcore STEM, hahaha. but getting the STEM bachelors is challenging enough.

see i view education and school as a means to an end, a key to a job, a paycheck. pay your dues then you can finally get paid, get paid enough to survive AND to spread your seed, leave a genetic legacy, etc. Yeah eventually I would like to mate and reproduce and my end of that bargain is that I do gotta be a provider in some sense. However at this point I just want to be able to provide for myself in a respectable manner. separating the bigboys from the littleboys, those who don’t want to work hard enough to survive, etc.

my advice to young men: do trade education while in high school, work your a55 off so you can do well in that and have a company pay for your STEM degree, or join the military, get some $$ to pay for a STEM degree, learn Alpha Charisma Leadership Power in the military, get a useful degree AND just as importantly get Good Experience while you do it, make yourself so marketable the employers come to YOU with your useful STEM knowledge and experience, ?????, profit, mate. Whether you want to have a traditionally monogamous rel or a harem is up to you. Although it’s probably not a good idea to get Legally Married in case your wife goes batty and decides to Take You To The Cleaners and then you’ve lost a huge part of what you’ve worked so, so, so, so hard for. Maybe have a primary “wife” which is the one you’re in “love” with the most (strongest infatuation or obsession or sense of commitment, can’t live without balblablabla), get nonlegally married to her and she can be your primary babymaker if you want heirs, and who DOESN’T hahahaha, and then if you want a harem on the side, that’s gonna be a negotiation you’re gonna have to work out with her. Just get your g0dd4mn STEM degree (and concurrent internships!) first.

have a fun week, i’ve already said way too much, i might do this again in a year or so since I want to minimize the privacy risks of having An Official Blog. Either way I am prone to make ridiculous tweets in the vein of LeviathanPride, ForTweetsSake, IanSquirtus, etc, cause I think that sort of stuff is real funny. But I will never seriously endorse violence of any kind, even “emotional violence”, hahaha. http://tl.gd/h02p32 ·

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